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This one is for all the new people on #Mastodon: did you know that the #fediverse has more than just a microblogging replacement? And that they can all interoperate with your Mastodon account?

Check them out!

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It’s also worth mentioning that you can integrate your #Wordpress or #Drupal blogs into the fediverse, too! So, you can natively integrate your articles, and replies on the fediverse can show up as comments on them!

WordPress: https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-activitypubDrupal: https://git.drupalcode.org/project/activitypub
I've been trying to get that Wordpress plug in to work for some years now! If they ever iron out the bugs on that and put a management interface into the dashboard, that would be great!
Admittedly, it probably needs some love. If there are any PHP devs willing to pitch it, that project would really benefit.
I have so many Wordpress questions.
No problem, what's up? 🙂
well, my first question is what role does Mastodon play in the digital landscape? How do you see it’s relationship to websites? I only know it as a social tool to post onto. I’m wondering if there are other functionalities that may be useful? Or is the function to have a social space that points folks to our websites?
is friendica have usable gui what is not confusing?
It has a pretty decent UI. It’s not perfect, but it’s a lot better than previous releases. I plan on doing some theme development for it, eventually.
i only saw fika.grin.hu GUI, but it reminds me the websites around 2000. it's the myspace version of facebook? 😀
LibraNet.de might be more to your liking, I believe they use a newer theme?

LIBRANET.de | Home

I have tried all themes and @hypolite said that all others are somehow broken. Some brokenness was experienced by yours truly and others were trusted to be so by listening to the aforementioned superhero.
We’re, huh, working on it, but not having frontend people regularly contributing is definitely our Achilles’ heel
still missing a fedi-alternative for LinkedIn 🙂
You know, aside from being a place to build a resume, I have never understood the appeal of LinkedIn.

I feel like Friendica might be an okay replacement for the social parts?
Goodness forbids we start receiving bug reports from corporate head hunters. 😰
while it's not federated (I don't think) The Storygraph is an excellent replacement for Goodreads too. Not Amazon owned and has very good features.
For this non-techie, all these new doors opening up with amazing new worlds that I had no clue existed, due to the kind and courteous tour guides is more than appreciated. The feeling is like Charlie entering the chocolate factory and seeing these amazing creations, courtesy of Willy Wonka.🤣
As someone who's been living in the chocolate factory for years, it's exciting to see new people coming in.

The internet is so much bigger and more full of possibility than the big corporate walled gardens, and I'm thrilled to be able to share that discovery!
Thank you for explaining it this way! Extremely helpful.
i remember meeting you on Diaspora back in the day ... which means we've both been in the Fediverse since before there officially *was* a fediverse 😀
Actually, funny enough, the fediverse started with StatusNet. Identi.ca was the most popular instance for a very, very long time.

Welcome - Identi.ca

but was it called the fediverse then? i was on identi.ca for a while but don't remember hearing the term either there or Diaspora
You know, I don't think I really heard the term much until StatusNet became GNU Social. But, I believe the term was coined by Evan Prodromou at some point.
It might be good to open an issue, they might be able to help: https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-activitypub
Meanwhile fediverse oldies:
Twitter replacement: GnuSocial
GnuSocial replacement: Pleroma, Mastodon
Same here. I need to find time to troubleshoot to try to narrow down the issue for a more-informative Github post. Maybe it's because I'm using an IIS server.
You have also Funkwhale (GrooveShark) : https://funkwhale.audio/
Owncast (Twitch) : https://owncast.online/
You are my hero. I have already started setting up accounts on several of these and will update my links page when done.

You are doing divine work here.
Twitch replacement: Owncast (https://owncast.online/)
Thanks for this! Very helpful. 🤩😇
tiktoc replacement?
Pixelfed has something called Moments, which is apparently capable of doing videos? It might be possible once the mobile app comes out.
Wow, thanks for sharing this. I didn't know about it, but this is cool to find out about. Maybe I should update my upcoming grants... hmm.
NGI0 has supported several fediverse projects in the past: https://nlnet.nl/NGI0/
Instagram used to be a place where people uploaded cool photos. People can still do that there, but there's tons of ads and spam now, and the app tries to do a million things after Facebook bought it. They pretty much made it a mini-Facebook.

Pixelfed is an alternative that's open source and uses the same stuff that Mastodon uses to let servers talk to each other, and because of this, Mastodon users can also follow Pixelfed users and vice versa.
just got on peertube last night. As with mastodon just working through the kinks. But really like the whole concept of the fediverse.
Whatever happened to Diaspora? That was meant to be *the* Facebook replacement, I seem to recall...
I used to be the Community Manager. The project still exists, and is actively developed, but they are doing their own thing, and do not want to adopt ActivityPub.

It's completely community-run now, and no longer a startup. I wrote about my experience some here: https://deadsuperhero.com/planting-a-seed-diasporas-story-part-1/

I have yet to write a Part 2.
Invidious is also a pretty good replacement for YouTube ☺️
it's a great frontend for YouTube, but it still relies on YouTube. PeerTube is actually a federated platform for video that has no such dependency.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czhd1eHv6ac

OOOOOH there a Youtube replacement! I don't really see how a spotify replacement can work due to copyright problems but I'll check it out later. =D
I probably should have used more general language. It's more like an open source GrooveShark, where you can store your files privately on a server, and stream it to your mobile client.

That said, people do publicly share the music they made themselves on there! I put up a few tracks on Open Audio, a Creative Commons instance.

https://open.audio/channels/butterflydoom/
I see, I'm not very knowledgeable about anything music. But it sounds like a good place for indie and open to use tracks which is something that absolutely needs their own place around.
FunkWhale themselves say they aren’t a Spotify replacement. That comparison only works if everyone shares copyrighted content.
Yeah, it's more for private streaming of your own files. That being said, people do share their own creations publicly on it...

https://open.audio/channels/butterflydoom/
can you use the same account and have those feeds in the one place?
Well, you can use your Mastodon account to follow accounts in all of those places, and you'll see their stuff on your Mastodon timeline.
is there a Pinterest replacement?
I haven’t heard of one yet! But, with that being said…

I recall that the beginner’s course One Month Rails literally taught people how to code a very basic Pinterest site. Obviously, getting the federation part to work would require much more effort, but…it’s probably doable / might exist?
is there a link for that course? building an open source Pinterest would be interesting.
I’d love to see an Amazon replacement on that list.
I honestly have no idea what a full-blown Amazon replacement would even look like.

Do you just mean the book store part? 😛
Although not part of the Fediverse I recommend https://uk.bookshop.org as an Amazon alternative.
Thanks for putting this list together.

If you don't mind the suggestion, PeerTube is just an app, not unlike [FreeTube](https://freetubeapp.io/), which works on the desktop. Have you looked into [Invidious](https://invidious.io/)?

Also, there's another Spotify alternative out there I very much like called [Resonate](https://resonate.coop/).
the purpose of my list is that these are all federated apps that can allow Mastodon users to follow creators on their respective platforms. They aren't just apps, they are part of this ecosystem.

I'm afraid that none of the alternatives you've listed qualify on that specific criteria, though they are quite cool.
Yes, I totally get that. I was surprised that I hadn't heard of all those services! I appreciate your curation. ツ
Diaspora as well can work for Facebook or is that not on the Fediverse?
Diaspora federates, but not with most fediverse platforms. They are doing their own thing with their own protocol.
it's been in maintenance mode for a long time...I think people are still working on it, but things are slow going?
Oh, I almost forgot! There’s also a #SoundCloud replacement called Reel2Bits by @dashie ! As far as I can tell, it’s not being actively developed right now, but it works great, and could provide a basis for another music app?
English, please?
What people think of as "The Mastodon Network" is actually a lot bigger and a lot more diverse. There are a lot of servers running different programs than Mastodon, and offer different kinds of experiences. But they can still talk together as one network.
Cheers, That's useful.
Are there any algorithms in mastodon?
Like when I respond to your toot, will I see your toots more often?
I think Mastodon just tries its best to keep things chronological.
I know that there are more options too. Just followed a link from here to Invidious, a video platform that looks terrific. (And some parts of the Fediverse do not yet look terrific, but I won't name names and I have confidence in the missions.) What do you think of the ones you've listed? Recommendations?
Invidious is just a frontend client for YouTube. PeerTube is a fully-realized platform that actually federates.
Thanks! Yes I do understand that now. As someone who has spent my recent years on only the big, typical platforms I have a lot to learn — a lot of good stuff to learn!
Just may try out Castopod sometime this week!
I hadn't heard of Castopod, so thanks for this list!
Are there any links on the interoperation between services? When I went to pixelfed it looked like it wan'ted to set up a new account.

I couldn't find a way to use my mastodon account or link the two? Didn't really seem that much like interoperability to me. Unless I'm missing something?
You don't use your Mastodon account to log in to these services. The interoperability is through federation, meaning that your Mastodon account can follow people on Pixelfed, PeerTube, etc, and be able to interact with their stuff from Mastodon.
To add to this, imagine being able to follow your friend's Instagram posts from Twitter, and when you tweet a comment in response, it automatically shows up on Instagram.

That's sorta what this is describing. You can like, follow, or comment on the "Instagrams" and "YouTubes" of this network without ever logging into a separate account. The activity on these different services can all end up in your unified feed.

If you want to post your own "Instagram-like" photos and use that app's features, you'll need to register an account on an instance running that service.
try this, next time you see a #peertube or #pixelfed (or any other federated URL), copy and paste it into your mastodon search bar. It'll find the account and let you follow it. So, you don't log in to THEIR server, but rather you remain on yours and follow them (from yours). It's fucking beautiful.
Try this one on for size: https://vidcommons.org/w/xeQeWbFDhLvJSmdZoGe9sW
If you want to follow a pixelfed account, just copy the handle of the account, including the instance ([email protected]) into the search on your mastodon. If someone on Pixelfed wants to follow you, they can copy your handle. Friendica has the most interopability
No. If you joined one of these services, you'd just have another account.

These platforms use the same communication protocol to talk to each other. You can follow any user that's on one of these platforms directly from Mastodon, and interact with them from your home timeline. This includes seeing their posts.
Yes. There's some ongoing research in being able to do this kind of stuff with one account using the ActivityPub Client to Server API, but few platforms currently support that.
Zoom replacement? 😘
You’ve got a few options.

Element is capable of video calls, and is a federated system using the @matrix protocol.

Jitsi is a bit more Zoom-like, and is pretty easy to use! Not federated, but totally open source.

Nextcloud Talk is a video conferencing platform that integrates directly into the Nextcloud platform. Open source, capable of federation with other Nextcloud servers, tons of benefits from the rest of the Nextcloud platform.
Yes, they use the same activity types. A lot of photographers prefer to use something like Pixelfed for their work. The benefit is that you can follow those accounts from Mastodon, and see / interact with their photos from your own timeline, rather than needing to log into Pixelfed.
Thanks for the heads up on Funkwhale.
i was going to mention storygraph as a goodreads alternative but i think it isn't open source, and bookwyrm is, so i'll give it a try! thank you
Yes, they are using Jitsi right now. And working on their own Element Call which is going to be their native Matrix client and be embeded into Element apps.
I keep seeing Owncast pop up as a podcasting/streaming alternative.
Yeah, OwnCast is amazing! I think its streaming is also compatible with PeerTube, which can also do streaming?

OBS works brilliantly with both projects.
#OBS is so good it's ubiquitous among streamers, most use either that or #SLOBS (a fork). A true triumph for #FOSS
- thank you for this list!
Missing: A Dating App replacement.

I am only half kidding.
actually, there are two projects for fediverse dating apps already.

https://github.com/lafnlab/Amore

https://github.com/Alovoa/alovoa
Whoa. That's blowing my mind.
These are going to be either awesome or a total disaster.

Or both.
thank you for this very informative listing for alternative / open source services !
thanks for this will enjoy having a look at these.
Thank you for this.

How do you manage all the different identities you get with these services? Should my Mastodon ID boost my Pixelfed images (for example) or can I use one identity across all of them?
There isn’t a great solution yet. One workaround, as you put it, is to boost your stuff that you posted elsewhere. It’s a bit tedious, though.

A unified solution is something that I’d love to see, but requires platforms / clients to adopt the ActivityPub Client-to-Server API to make that happen. Unfortunately, it’s not as practical as the Mastodon API that most projects use instead.

A few projects support C2S, so I’m currently exploring the possibility of building unique clients that show different types of posts, with all the data living in one place, under one account.
(ngl Client-to-Server sounds exactly like SMTP…)
Yeah, I’ve heard it compared to either SMTP or IMAP before. It’s actually not bad to work with at all, but requires a different way of thinking about how to put things together.

It would actually be an interesting experience to write an email-like frontend that exclusively uses C2S.
Thanks. This is new to me so learning!
Hubzilla is absolutely incredible, but is also probably one of the most complex / advanced projects in the entire fediverse. It really needs some UX love. If you’re a power user and have the time to configure it, though, you can build some really wild stuff with it.
You might want to consider adding
https://writefreely.org/
to your list
...and I see you did. I blame the current lag time on mastodon.social for having missed it before posting.
It’s quite alright! It’s kind of a lengthy thread at this point, and not everybody can see every part of it right away. Because of this, I’m more than happy to explain things as many times as I’m asked something. 🙂
thanks for the list - I made a link to your toot in my blog about the fediverse. I hope that's ok??
Yep, totally fine!
Thank you so much for this post. I am so here for the interoperation!
Great to see you active in the 'verse again and thanks for sharing this list with newbies, but...

@sean
> Facebook replacement: Friendica

... it's really not fair to Friendica to keep making this comparison. Neither the feature set nor the UI of Friendica are anything like modern FB, so calling it a FB replacement just sets people up for disappointment and poor first impressions. IMHO We don't yet have a complete, federated replaced for FB and it's better to just be honest about that.
I guess that’s fair. I just tend to see Friendica’s current resign as very reminiscent of what was good about Facebook’s UI prior to the Big Bad Redesign where it now looks like a PlaySkool interface.

I still think Friendica is a totally viable replacement, if you cut out the chat, games, zillions of client apps, marketplace, moments, and their video offerings.

Yeah, I guess they are pretty different nowadays.
> if you cut out the chat, games, zillions of client apps, marketplace, moments, and their video offerings

In other words, ignore the vast majority of the features people use FB for, then the comparison holds. This is kind of my point ;)

Friendica definitely offers things that Mastodon and other micro-posting platforms don't and it's well worth promoting. I just think if we're promoting fedi tools as replacements for datafarms, there must be a more accurate comparison for Friendica.
I joined Diaspora* a few years ago and I'm a little surprised to not see it on the list. Is that seen as a rival to these Fediverse apps?
My main motivation was to provide a list of platforms that can all federate together through ActivityPub. Sadly, Diaspora is not interested in adopting that protocol, and can only talk to a few other platforms on the network (Friendica, Hubzilla, and Socialhome come to mind)
Thanks. Openness and interoperability are crucial if we're going to coax more people over from the commercial apps. Will look to set up a Friendica account soon!
@Dave Waghorn@Sean Tilley Diaspora is not part of the fediverse. It doesn't use ActivityPub (the fediverse protocol) but has its own protocol. Friendica and Hubzilla can work with both.

grin doesn't like this.

The fediverse is older than ActivityPub
it's like breaking out of the walled gardens to find a gang doing all the same stuff but on survival mode...without giving THE MAN anything.

Genuinely wonder if the purchase of the Birdsite might one day be looked on like buying a huge canal network just as the railway came in... there's another way!
thank you for your list of #fediverse replacement for commercial sites!
Is there also a recommended slack replacement?
It’s not perfect on the moderation side, but @matrix offers a really great client for web, desktop, and mobile called Element
what about Discord alternative?.
It’s not perfect on the moderation side, but @matrix offers a really great client for web, desktop, and mobile called Element
fantastic post. THis is the innocation missing when monopolies use your content, creations and data to build billion dollar entities, then stymie new entrants!
Does #pixelfed do hashtag feeds like mastodon?

As a performing artist, currently most interaction we get is Ig, we're busy, but the audience uses hashtags that we then can boost (share) or pin (story) often from our phones during a break.

Assuming tavern-going folk take to a federated pixelfed and have the app at the ready, would this work the same?

We've been known to have the sousaphone player #livestream from his phone, too. Would that work with P2P streams?
Yes, Pixelfed uses hashtags and has a pretty neat discovery system built in!
I feel like I stumbled through a hidden portal and ended up in this parallel universe where everything just seems to be so much prettier than on the other side.
Thanks so much for this. Will check out BookWyrm.
dumb newbie question: Do I follow myself on those other accounts? Tag myself in posts?Or just pop in an out of them as if they were separate social media platforms?
You can follow yourself, I do that to boost content I made in other places into my personal timeline here. But, you don't need a new account to follow people on other platforms - if I follow a Pixelfed photographer from this account, I'll see their photos and comments, and be able to interact with both! They will also be able to see any photos I posted from my end.
A very quick challenge here with no intent to offend. Funkwhale is not a Spotify replacement. If anyone claims it was, how do they license the music content being posted? I have read their T&Cs and they are basically transferring responsibility to the end user which is beyond grey. Aren't both signed and independent artists rewarded for the usage of their work? I couldn't find a framework or agreement between artists and producers and Funkwhale either. This would constitute theft.
No, you're right. I got called on it further up the thread. It's more comparable to GrooveShark, in that you can upload music to a server and listen to it from your device. Still, I consider personal streaming of one's own media a type of replacement.
what is it about Friendica makes it like Facebook?
long-form posting, lots of utilities based around contact management, groups. In truth, it's closer to the Facebook of maybe 2015, but yeah, it's harder to draw a comparison to the newer designs.
And what about Chat? I am currently using element.io, an awesome matrix client, but I am hesitant to to expose newbies to that product until it's UX is friendlier.
Yeah, I'm at a loss on this one. I think Element is viable, but there are still plenty of rough edges.
We have a client up and running and ready to fork, but my coding partner doesn't speak the language and doesn't have time to learn right now. I am dying to add a few simple tweaks that would fix much
What does "interoperate with your Mastodon account" mean in this context? How do they relate to each other besides using the ActivityPub protocol?
A pretty good explanation can be found here: https://social.deadsuperhero.com/notice/APSqJ9uzn2Pk29QPXU
when I worked on building, fixing, or updating CMS almost all the problems came from improperly unsetup htaccess files
Thank you for the info!
how would i go about using BookWyrm from my Mastodon account here, for an example?
That's a good one! The short answer is that generally, you don't. Bookwyrm requires you to have an account on there to make reviews.

That said, you can follow that subsequent Bookwyrm account from Mastodon!
I'm on #BookWyrm as @[email protected]

I follow that account with my Mastodon account. When I post a review on BookWyrm I then boost it in Mastodon. It is a little cumbersome, but it works and I don't review a lot of books.
no, it's more akin to GrooveShark, where you stream your own music library from the cloud to a mobile client.

That being said, some musicians upload and share their work in public libraries that you can federate with and listen to.
I am very interested in how to use these together. Someone was just telling me about pixelfed and said I would need an account there. I’m new but totally down with with what I’m seeing, but not sure how to make literally all of this even functional. It’s already a lot to keep up with the non decentralized stuff. Any help?
[Misskey](https://misskey-hub.net/en) can be considered as an interesting Facebook replacement.
[Misskey](https://misskey-hub.net/en) can be considered as an interesting replacement for Facebook.
MissKey is awesome! The design work on that project is amazing.

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