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!Friendica Support am I correct in understand that TITLES being shown as Content warnings on #mastodon is a Mastodon decision, not a #friendica one?

Karl Voit :emacs: :orgmode:

2022-10-28 07:56:32

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Yes, this is abuse IMHO. When "title" is mapped to "warning", this is clearly a semantic break. A title is per se completely different from a CW if you take CW seriously. However, it might be the case that we end up with "titles" all over Mastodon and rename this feature somewhere in the future because many people do seem to switch. Bad for the people who rely on real CWs IMHO. YMMV.
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Michael 🇺🇦
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It is a Mastodon decision not to display posts that are marked as "Article" but to only display their title and to provide a link to the post.
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Hypolite Petovan
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Hypolite Petovan
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Not exactly. Titles make Friendica posts in Mastodon look like Title + Link to the original post, while the Content Warning must be inserted manually through an [abstract] tag.
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Spencer
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In the BBCode documentation, it's shown that you can specify a network for the abstract, but I haven't been able to find a consolidated list of these networks. What is used for each? I ask because one of the examples is [abstract=goog], which makes me unsure whether all networks have an arbitrarily shortened nickname for this purpose, or just some.

And more directly, how do you specify Mastodon for an abstract? Mastodon, mast, or something different?

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Hypolite Petovan
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This is a great question, as long as I was the only one asking it I could sleep on it, but now I guess I have to do something about it.

In the meantime, here's the full list from the code:

  • apub: ActivityPub (including Friendica, Mastodon, Pleroma, MissKey, etc...)
  • dfrn: Legacy Friendica, unlikely to work with recent-ish versions of Friendica
  • dspr: Diaspora
  • feed: RSS/Atom feeds
  • mail: Email (IMAP/POP)
  • stat: OStatus (GNU Social? They also speak ActivityPub now)

Through an addon:

  • dspc: Diaspora connector
  • lnkd: LinkedIn
  • pump: pump.io
  • stac: StatusNet connector
  • twit: Twitter
  • dscs: Discourse

Dead protocols:

  • apdn: App.NET
  • face: Facebook (API is closed)
  • goog: Google+

Currently unsupported:

  • ical: ICalendar
  • mysp: MySpace
  • nntp: Network News Transfer Protocol
  • pnut: pnut.io
  • xmpp: XMPP
  • zot: Zot!

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Martin 🪷 Schmitz
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No, if you set a title, mastodon only shows the title and a link to the original post. Setting a title makes the activity stream a type=Article instead of type=Note. Mastodon does only display Notes.

If you want a CW on mastodon, you have to put the CW-Text in between [abstract][/abstract]. Friendica doesn't display it's content than.

This behaviour is described deeply hidden in your friendica help pages (under /BBCode):

For postings that are delivered via ActivityPub, the text from the abstract is placed in the summary field. On Mastodon this field is used for the content warning.
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Ruben Verweij
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@Martin Schmitz wouldn't it make sense to display the CW/abstract on Friendica as well? This seems a bit confusing..
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Hypolite Petovan
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It's a user-based decision in Settings -> Social Networks -> General -> Enable Content Warnings.

When disabled, the summary is used as a title instead.

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Martin 🪷 Schmitz
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Comment with CW
This comment starts with [abstract]Comment with CW[/abstract]. Do you see it? I don't. But Mastodon sees it as a CW. And I can see CWs from mastodon users. But not my own.

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Martin 🪷 Schmitz
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Oh, this is funny. But good to know. I usually see CWs as well, except on my on posts and comments. Is it a bug or a feature?
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Hypolite Petovan
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Why would you want to see your own summaries except for visual debugging?
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Martin 🪷 Schmitz
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This is a valid point. 😀 It just feels a little bit weird for me to enter some text I cannot access in any way anymore after sending it. But as I now know about it, it's ok for me.
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Ji Fu (Domestic Terrorist)
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I know the EDIT button has given me some unusual results lately in re: SHARE posts from RSS/Atom
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Ji Fu (Domestic Terrorist)
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K, I've been meaning to, but it "fails" in several different ways, so I never get around to getting a version that feels like it would actually be helpful to write a GitHub Issue on.
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Ruben Verweij
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To me, it would make sense to see your own CW, but opened by default. It's not a big deal now I know how it works, but the first time I thought the CW didn't work because it didn't display for me in any way.
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Hypolite Petovan
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I get it, but the way we do “open by default” is with a title, which conflicts with the actual title field we also provide.
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Hypolite Petovan
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This is the general philosophy of Friendica. Most post filtering should be user-based, including content warnings, NSFW and language. You should never see a Friendica admin advocating for authors to add Content Warning in their posts.
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Ji Fu (Domestic Terrorist)
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Filtered word: nsfw

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jakob 🇦🇹 ✅
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zusammenfassung wäre besser übersetzt
That's funny.
I can't see the Abstract. And not title...

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