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I think one of the biggest changes in how I communicate online came after moving to Fedi. For the most part now I am able to have serious conversations with people who share my values, without being constantly pulled into squabbles with assholes who are wasting my time.
in reply to Artemis

I'm happy to have some back & forth, receive new information from people, get called out if I'm fucking up, etc.

But I do not fucking need jerks who just want to cause problems wasting the energy which I could spend on good, important conversations.

in reply to Artemis

In that regard, Twitter was even more hellish than I realized. I wanted to be talking with people who are also trying to make the world a better place, but instead I was getting worn down & distracted by the people trying to make it worse.
in reply to Artemis

This is really the difference between good and bad/no moderation. We shouldn't have to deal with bad faith engagement.
in reply to Cassandrich

@dalias
Yeah, the moderation experience on a good Fedi instance is wildly different from being on major social media.
in reply to Artemis

We should never stop trying to make Fedi better & safer. It's not perfect. As usual, marginalized people have the worst experience.

So this is not to say "yay! We did it! It's perfect & never needs to change."

But the spaces that we build for ourselves can be so much better than what private enterprise has to offer. We can have fucking *conversations* here.

in reply to Artemis

And frankly, it's been slow, but I have seen a lot of people—including instance admins—responding to the suggestions & critiques of marginalized people.

It's not everyone & it's not enough, but it does fucking happen here. The hard conversations happen & at least *some* people try to make this better.

One thing I love about Fedi is that it *can become better.*

in reply to Artemis

Also, if you are having a lot of interactions with people acting in bad faith or harassing you, it is worth considering moving to an instance with stricter moderation or that blocks or restricts more problem instances.

Dicecamp has been great for me, but there are plenty of great ones out there.

in reply to Artemis

I especially recommend this if you're on mastodon social. I'm really glad you signed up & joined Fedi, but you may be able to find an even better corner to call your own (but do what you want—the point is it's your choice).

"Just move instances" is not a solution to systemic problems, but if you think you could personally have a better experience, it's a thing you can try.

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in reply to Artemis

i agree, mastodon.social is too big, they attract too many trolls.
in reply to Artemis

I love dice camp, both for the moderation and the content focus.
in reply to Artemis

I've seen more people genuinely apologise for a misunderstanding on here and then make up and move on than I have in all my time on algorithmic social media put together, where the incentive is to instead dunk on each other in an ever escalating argument for the clicks of spectators

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in reply to Jules she/her

@afewbugs

Exactly. And the thing is, when you see other people responding in that way—asking for clarification instead of assuming the worst & apologizing when called out—it feels safer to do that yourself. I've become a lot better at just not responding with the first emotional thing that pops into my head & actually thinking "what would it look like to just talk to this person in a mutually respectful way?"

in reply to Artemis

@afewbugs I've done a couple of faux pas here when interacting with some interesting profiles. Some of them have given me the possibility to clarify my intentions, and I'll be always grateful for that. The ones that have just gone and blocked me … turns out they weren't particularly nice anyway.
in reply to Jules she/her

@afewbugs I semi-frequently give random internet strangers here a “like” when I see them apologize or course-correct, just to let them know that a random internet stranger approves of their ability to apologize or recognize that there’s a misunderstanding and maybe they’re at fault or can do better.
in reply to 0xC0DEC0DE07EA

@c0dec0dec0de @afewbugs
I've noticed that it's "popular" on here when people figure out their misunderstanding & apologize. Posts like that usually get a few faves. So yeah, I guess that's a small cultural thing that helps encourage that attitude.
in reply to Artemis

Fedi is 'a process' rather than just 'a place'. It is always changing, and as long as it continues to change for the better, I'm in.
in reply to Artemis

I wonder, as we grow, will we be able to turn the latter into the former? How can we absorb those people and teach them better ways of interacting without changing the essential character of our space?
in reply to Artemis

it was striking to gradually move away from there, and then leave completely... and then interact over the next few years with people still there (or on the blue reskin, whatever).

Even in non-public spaces, the way they'd immediately leap on during a friendly conversation to try to be more righteous or have a better Take or pick some pedantic fuckin nano-hole in *conversation with their own people*

in reply to Sin Vega

@sinvega
Yeah, I think people develop a fighting mentality & eventually make very little distinction between friend & foe. Everything feels like it could be an attack.
in reply to Artemis

It has been an adjustment to not assume everything said to or near me is intended to start a debate. I never got into the arguments, but I definitely assumed the worst by the end of my time on Twitter.
in reply to regular violet

@thecrushedviolet
Exactly. Even if you really want to have productive conversations & aren't looking for debate, it's an environment that ends up feeling so hostile, so it becomes hard to approach people in good faith.
in reply to Artemis

nice, it's been mostly like that for me also, there is still some pointless fighting that I gotten into on here but not that mutch, only twice Maby 3 times since I started using mastodon
in reply to Artemis

i think once i dropped off of twitter and went to bsky i started changing my mentality about that kind of platform. though on bsky it increasingly turned into the same kind of pointless verbal combat. i've had nothing like that here, which has been great. i don't post as much, but it's still a more pleasant experience.
in reply to Artemis

Same. I got so tired of the drive-by snark and hostility that was just a cost of using those platforms, and using the Fediverse more has made me more comfortable just blocking and ignoring assholes who are wasting my time.
in reply to Spencer

My experience online improved immensely when I decided that debating with me is a privilege reserved for those who already have a relationship with me.
in reply to Spencer

That said, I think my thinking and writing style online have been—if not permanently, then at least massively—scarred by spending so many years in spaces where context was obliterated, and randos would aggressively demand that any statement of yours be polished enough to apply to every single human biography. The reflexive justification and disclaiming habits are strong, and so hard to break.

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