1/52 Good to see this Guardian Long Read, but as a historical ecologist I would like to add: humans do not just either stay within boundaries or destroy nature. It's often been a positive, dynamic human-nature symbiosis, with humans actively shaping and creating forests & #biodiversity #historicalecology
— here a (long!) thread with examples from across the world
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Humans v nature: our long and destructive journey to the age of extinction
The story of the damage done to the world’s biodiversity is a tale of decline spanning thousands of years. Can the world seize its chance to change the narrative?Phoebe Weston (The Guardian)
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •2/52 Coinciding with #cop15 I've decided to do a little series here on some examples of *positive" human/biodiversity relations - prompted by above article and a recent exchange with @IrishRainforest
To state from outset: i fully recognise that so much human impact has been vastly, overwhelmingly detrimental - especially under capitolocene but also sometimes before. I am as devastated and aware as anyone. But this is why I think it is important to also know that it doesn't have to be this way,
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •4/52 it has not ALL been just a history of unilinear destruction of nature by humans.
So I will post different examples of this here every day this coming week.
1. Today, it's forest islands in West Africa. These were long thought of as last remnants of forest, surrounded by 'derived savanna', but James Fairhead and Melissa Leach showed that they were growing and created by people through villages, habitation and farming. Watch their film 'Second Nature' here:
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Second Nature (1996)
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •(on researchgate) - Benin Iya earthwork, old pictures and all
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •7/52 Secondly, West African ideas and practices of soil creation, as described here by James Fairhead (my PhD supervisor btw) and Ian Scoones. Soils are thought of as actively created and improved by humans, and people do make better, 'oily' soils that contribute to forest growth in many different ways.
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •8/52 It's #Day3 of #COP15 and of my #HistoricalEcology mini-series. Today it's the Amazon, really the heartland of historical ecology research. Just wanted to share this great Horizon documentary on how many areas now covered in rainforest were agricultural, thriving towns and cities, until 1492 and epidemic decimation in its wake; and how the Secret of Eldorado was Terra Preta - highly fertile soils created by people. Enjoy!
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The Secret Of Eldorado - TERRA PRETA
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •9/52 And here a collection of essays by William Balee, on the role of humans in shaping Amazon forests. As he puts it: "we can no longer think about species and landscape diversity in any tropical forest without taking into account the intricacies of human history and the impact of all forms of knowledge and technology"
muse.jhu.edu/book/26080
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •10/52 On #Day4 of our #COP15 #HistoricalEcology series, we travel to East Africa. Landscapes like the Serengeti are, for many, quintessential African wilderness, but as Jan Shetler showed in 'Imagining Serengeti', these landscapes were in fact created by Serengeti peoples, whose maintenance of water holes and seasonal, strategic burning created the conditions for wilderbeest and other wildlife to thrive
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Imagining Serengeti: A History of Landscape Memory in Tanzania from Earliest Times to the Present
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •11/52 There is no doubt that today's rapidly increasing global meat consumption is unsustainable, and that cattle is a major contributor to carbon emissions, deforestation and biodiversity loss. I am 100% for synthetic meat, plant-based diets, etc. But this does not mean that ALL pastoralism, everywhere, is bad. As Ian Scoones shows here, pastoralism can help biodiversity thrive in areas unfit for treeplanting or crops.
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How pastoral farming can help to avoid a biodiversity crisis
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •12/52 This is all the more important to stress now that #COP15 seems to be seriously considering the 30x30 plan. This plan is part of a long history of colonial land appropriation in the name of conservation, such as in Serengeti, and as it stands, could affect the lands and livelihoods of 300 million people, the ones least responsible for environmental destruction.
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Why 30x30 would be the worst possible outcome of COP15 | African Arguments
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •13/52 As Scoones says, pastoralists can play an important role in conservation as land stewards, but so much conservation is about exclusion rather than inclusion, from the colonial period right to the 30x30 plan.
Right now, 150,000 Maasai are battling eviction from their land in Tanzania and Kenya.
Biodiversity conservation is vital, more so today than ever, but it needs to be ecologically right and just. So important not to blame and harm the wrong people
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Tanzania’s Maasai appeal to west to stop eviction for conservation plans
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •15/52 to widespread increase in tree cover throughout the South Pare Mountains. You can read more about this in two of my own papers (for which i combined repeat photography, archival and ethnographic research): this one on tree symbolism discusses in more depth the different dynamics and ways people relate to sacred groves, colonial exotic trees and tree planting scheme, and indigenous and fruit trees in farms and around homesteads
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •16/52 This second paper is on repeat photography as a method in environmental anthropology, but also grapples very much with the kind of narratives we construct around environmental change, Perhaps not strictly about human/biodiversity relations, but an attempt to think through and discuss the complexities as well as the politics involved in all this, so maybe of interest too.
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •19/52 and ecological resilience achieved. Another example is swidden horticulture in Papua New Guinea. The ever-changing patchwork of farm, forest and fallow described by @tutam in his chapter on Mengen landscapes here captures the dynamics and people-nature relations of shifting cultivation here and in so many other places really well
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •20/52 There are many different kinds of challenges to shifting cultivation today; in most places in the world, there is huge competition for land, for many different reasons. But this makes it all the more important to protect the rights of those with the least destructive practices,. This is expressed so well in this animated film made with the Coalition against Land Grabbing (CALG) - Philippines and to the the Batak Federation (Bayaan it Batak kat Palawan – BBKP)
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A Story of Shifting Cultivation
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •22/52 Satoyama fosters a symbiotic relationship between small local forests, managed & coppiced by villagers, & farming, in particular rice paddies. It creates high biodiversity, in particular through its many ponds. It declined due to rural depopulation in the mid 20th century, but since the 1980s the Satoyama Iniative has been doing great work reviving the system. Here is a v nice National Geographic film Satoyama (with David Attenborough voiceover - bit out of sync!)
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Satoyama - Wonderful Watergarden (Nat Geo Wild)
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •23/52 And then just now I also came across Takachihogo-Shiibayama, one of several sites in Japan where Globally Important Agricultural Heritage Systems (GIAHS) works. But I am really not a #Japan expert and would love to learn much, much more
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Globally Important Agricultural Heritage System (GIAHS) The Takachihogo-Shiibayama Site
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •24/52 Here is "The Seeds we sow" - a documentary about Takachiho. Which I have only just started watching myself, but it looks really good, too.
(And, since I have spare space: Studio Ghibli films are just about the most wonderful films about human-nature relations. #MyNeighbourTotoro, #PrincessMononoke, #Ponyo, #Nauticaa - all brilliant)
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"The Seeds We Sow" Documentary movie of Takachiho, Miyazaki Pref. of Japan
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •25/52 Today on #Day8 of #COP15 we are in #China, and I am posting a great piece about the #historicalecology of Jiuzhaigou National Nature Reserve in Sichuan Province. It discusses how moderate levels of disturbance create landscapes of higher biodiversity than complete protection - the “Intermediate disturbance hypothesis“ in landscape ecology. Yet here, too, the people who created
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Deep history in western China reveals how humans can enhance biodiversity
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •27/52 It's #Day9 of #COP15 and now we are in the #Mediterranean, an area full of rich #historicalecology and traditions of fostering #biodiversity. First look at #Spain and #Dehesa, an agrosilvopastoral system that combines nature conservation with sustainable rural development. This paper provides a good overview
doctorrange.com/PDF/Dehesa.pdf
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •28/52 Farmers in Italy, Spain and France also developed "cultura promiscua", promiscuous culture or #polyculture: a system of intercropping that combines in particular wine and olive trees ("companian trees), but also many other plants, all complementing each other. It is ancient but still practiced very widely. Here is one nice introductory article - was going to add a picture I took myself in Italy this summer, when I learned about all this but can't upload (on train)
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IN PRAISE OF PROMISCUOUS CULTURES • La Donaira
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •29/52 I really like the concept of edible landscapes, of a kind of plant architecture
“At the shade of a proud palm tree an olive tree sprouts, and under the olive tree, the fig and the pomegranate, and under that the grape. Under the grape the wheat, and then the leguminous. At last, the leafy greens. All that in the same year, and each one of them being fed at the shade of the other.”
– Natural History, Pliny the Elder, c.77 AD
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •30/52 On #Day10 of this #COP15 #biodiversity series I am (mostly) focusing on #Britain. But first, a more general piece by Max Paschall, about Europe's lost forest gardens, including both 'cultura promiscua' in the Mediterranean but also Europe's and especially Britain's wider #historicalecology since the #Neolithic. It's really wonderful, especially about the #hazelnut - one of several absolute key 'life' trees for humans (more on this later)
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The Lost Forest Gardens of Europe - Resilience
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •I can't keep up with it, but I'm planning to watch and read (almost) everything!
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •33/52 Phoebe Weston - author of the article that inspired this thread - herself did a wonderful video about English woods in the spring, and about primroses. (can't find it just now, unfortunately). I remember her saying primroses indicated human managed/coppiced forests; here it says 'ancient' woodlands, 'relatively undisturbed', but I wonder whether that's not really actually the same?
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picture of primroses with butterfly, taken from the woodland trust website
Primrose (Primula vulgaris) - Woodland Trust
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •34/52 There are lots of folk tales and myths about primroses. In general, there is so much ancient environmental knowledge here, too. Just a few days ago I saw on here this nice article about birds and bird knowledge in English place names, by Michael Warren
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British place names resonate with the song of missing birds | Aeon Essays
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •35/52 And just this morning @rlcj sent me this paper about place names as traditional environmental knowledge (TEK) in the UK. I am really interested in setting up something to connect to these kinds of marginalised knowledges here, and @RadicalAnthro @helencornish and myself are putting together a workshop to discuss this (March 14th I think). We would really welcome participants and suggestions from here!
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •I'm not sure that us mortals can see such a thing no matter how interesting it sounds
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •Responding to Modern Flooding: Old English Place-Names as a Repository of Traditional Ecological Knowledge
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •36/52 Today i had a bit of a mishap, I accidentally started a new thread. I then copied most of the toots from that into this one, but, again accidentally, left out this one, on coppicing and Sprout Lands (after Oliver Rackham, before Phoebe Weston and primroses), so adding here now. Sprout Lands was recommended to me by @urbanmicrofarmer who also sent me this lovely 1940s clip on #hedging. I learned a lot from it!
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Hedging (1942)
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •37/52 A bit late today for #Day11 of my #cop15 series (out all day)! Today it's #NorthAmerica, looking into fire management practices. It's pretty well known by now that one factor contributing to the severity of wildlfires in recent years (as well as climate change) is the interruption of native american practices of setting controlled fires, preventing larger fires. There is quite a lot of work on this - here a short overview from the National Park Service
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Indigenous Fire Practices Shape our Land - Fire (U.S. National Park Service)
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •38/52 In general, there is more and more evidence that, in contrast to uncontrolled large wildfires, controlled fires enhance, rather than reduce, biodiversity. Controlled fires are increasingly used by US and other forest management services, but it's been practiced throughout the world for many centuries. As the fire ecologist Kira Hoffmann puts it: "conservation of the world's biodiversity is embedded in indigenous fire stewardship"
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •39/52 But it's native americans who are perhaps best known for judicious fire management, as for ecological wisdom in general. Two key authors who have written very powerfully about this are Vine Deloria (e 'Spirit and Reason') and Robin Wall Kimmerer. I have left her work last in this series as it's by far the best known- and so, so wonderful! Here she is talking powerfully about the Potawatomi concept of the Honourable Harvest, of taking only as much as you need
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Reclaiming the Honorable Harvest: Robin Kimmerer at TEDxSitka
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •41/52 It's #Day12, the penultimate day of #cop15. Today, some summarising reflection on all the things we looked at on this short (far from exhaustive, all too superficial) global tour of #biodiversity increasing practices.
Each example is rooted in local ecological dynamics; in local history, beliefs and stories - it's crucial to understand tradional environmental knowledge in this way.
Yet at the same time, you cannot help but be struck by remarkable commonalities, and it is these I would
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •42/52 like to draw out today. Everywhere it is about understanding local ecological dynamics, and about working with them, not against.
Working with forests, mimicking, recreating forests through gardening: Amazon, Papua New Guinea, forest gardens in Europe, Satoyama in Japan
Improving soil through charcoal, controlled burning, human excrement etc: West African dark soils, Terra preta in Amazon, night soils in Europe
Working with hydrology/water systems: Satoyama, Pare irrigation, Merano
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Controlled fires: North America, West Africa, China, Japan - everywhere, really
Building mounds, terraces, etc: South America, West Africa, etc. Had a lovely exchange with @CathHodsman on birdsite about this recently: how both animals and humans so often create mounds, more surface variability
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •44/52 Building of living fences and hedges: West and East Africa, hedging in the UK
Recognising and enhancing companion trees/species: Potawatomi pumkin, beans and corn; mediterranean wine/olive tree symbiosis
Key nut/oil tree that are fostered and enhanced as so central to life: maple trees in North America, hazelnut in Europe, Oil Palm in West Africa (more about this in my hopefully-forthcoming-at-some-point book)
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •45/52 And integrated forms of pastoralism: East Africa, Spain, China
Too much football excitement in the house to concentrate, but just to conclude for today:
Everywhere, it's about the recreation and enhancement of nature; about fostering dynamic symbiosis between trees, grasses, mushrooms and animals; about 'intermediate levels of disturbance', to use that slightly technical phrase; and about reciprocity and respect
Tomorrow, some finale thoughts on what it all means for #COP15 and beyond!
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •46/52 So it's #Day13, the final day of #COP15 - and of our #historicalecology series here. To return to the original Guardian article all this was in response to (adding here again for reference): this (monster rather than mini) thread has tried to put together evidence that the history of our relationship to nature has not been one of unilinear destruction; and that destruction is not "human nature".
theguardian.com/environment/20…
Humans v nature: our long and destructive journey to the age of extinction
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •47/52 How does this matter for #COP15, and beyond? Today it was great news that a (first!) Global Biodiversity Framework was forged. In the face of Sixth mass extinction, & with widespread rapid #capitolocence destruction, the protection of biodiverse forests, wildlife habitats & crucial ecosystems is hugely important - for example the Leuser Eco System in North Sumatra, or Okomu National Park in Nigeria. I'm myself involved in forest elephant protection here!
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Camera-trap footage from Nigeria of Okomu National Park’s elusive elephants.
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •48/52 BUT, with conservation of significant additional areas on the cards (#30x30), there are real concerns about what/whose land where will be zoned off - it should not be taken from people whose livelihoods are dependent on land AND whose practices anyway arenot harmful but increasing biodiversity. There are ways to combine conservation with local interests, and it's really not just about 'alternative income generating' schemes etc instead of access to land
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The Big Green Lie
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •49/52 Moreover, as this brilliant graph by twitter.com/Leclere_David shows so clearly: increased/improved conservation alone is not enough. We need a transition to sustainable production and consumption to recover some of our recent biodiversity losses.
I do believe that a rediscovery and fostering of the #biodiversity enhancing historical practices throughout the world we've looked at here can play an important role in this.
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •50/52 This does not mean advocating a return to the bronze age - derided and feared by so many! - but integrating and combining historical elements with modern technology, synthetic meat, solar panels and all. Like the orchards in my favourite #Solarpunk image, taken from this article by BrightFlame:
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Solarpunk | News | Sustainability | Teachers College, Columbia University
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •52/52 Anyway, to bring this #mammoth (!) thread to a close: I feel it's here on mastodon that we are forging those connections, having these conversations. I would love to learn more from all those of you doing #permaculture, #indigenous rights, #forestgardens, etc - very much at the beginning of all this myself.
PS i would never, ever have dared to do this on the birdsite - fear of backlash, of not getting it right. But here I felt I could. Thank you #mastodon
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52/52 -> this looks like you should definitely check out #friendica #misskey or #plume. You can post texts as long as you wish in one post on those instances.
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •your post reminded me of a Karl Hess video I show people simetimes. For those who don't know, before Karl became poor, part of the Left, a member of the IWW, and a community organizer, he was a republican speech writter for Goldwater!!! Also, the only citizen I've ever heard of who was banned by the government from ever earning a wage again. I think he's so special, and his story reminds me of mine and thousands of others I've heard about from ex-caputalists. Ya'll don't give up on the right wingers too fast. Neuroplactity and love are real. Anyway, I show this to people and they're all like, "I don't want to live like the Plain Dutch and Amish." And I'm like, "you don't need to! Those intentional communities, ecovillages, communist or whatever you want to call them need you and your tech. We're not condemning you! We're inviting you! It's about changing your relations, not the tech. They need engineers, doctors, and pharmacists. We can bring a lot of production home and not relate as strangers through the cash nexus!!!" The tech in this video is 1980s.
... show moreyour post reminded me of a Karl Hess video I show people simetimes. For those who don't know, before Karl became poor, part of the Left, a member of the IWW, and a community organizer, he was a republican speech writter for Goldwater!!! Also, the only citizen I've ever heard of who was banned by the government from ever earning a wage again. I think he's so special, and his story reminds me of mine and thousands of others I've heard about from ex-caputalists. Ya'll don't give up on the right wingers too fast. Neuroplactity and love are real. Anyway, I show this to people and they're all like, "I don't want to live like the Plain Dutch and Amish." And I'm like, "you don't need to! Those intentional communities, ecovillages, communist or whatever you want to call them need you and your tech. We're not condemning you! We're inviting you! It's about changing your relations, not the tech. They need engineers, doctors, and pharmacists. We can bring a lot of production home and not relate as strangers through the cash nexus!!!" The tech in this video is 1980s.
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Karl Hess on Appropriate/Community Technology
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •A brilliant thread & I'm very much looking forward to sinking into it properly.
In the meantime, a question jumps to mind: do you think modernity complicates this conversation? I'm wary when "humans and nature together" inspirations involve small populations and low densities in non-market contexts. E.g., subsistence hunting: many fine local & historical examples, but scaled to 8 billion people and market economies, it'd be disastrous.
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Why is biodiversity important? - Mark Zoetrope - Medium
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •"This (monster rather than mini) thread has tried to put together evidence that the history of our relationship to nature has not been one of unilinear destruction; and that destruction is not 'human nature'".
Amen! Here's my contribution to the genre! ✊
darkoptimism.org/2019/08/06/hu…
Humanity - not just a virus with shoes - Dark Optimism
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in reply to Shaun Chamberlin • • •@DarkOptimism 😄 it’s a post-apocalyptic netflix series i watched with my son. It’s not that great (acting and script wise), but quite interesting as a sign of our times, and quite absorbing. All about a virus wiping out 80-90% of humans, just all children are born as hybrids, half human, half animal.
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Sweet Tooth season two review – this fantasy drama pulls off a miracle
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •Ah, thanks! I generally avoid series, but might add it to my handy "too braindead to do anything useful but not ready to sleep" list 😄
Am currently halfway through (i.e. last night fell asleep halfway through!) impressive 2022 documentary #TheGrab — recommended by several of our #SurvivingTheFuture community — which came to mind several times while reading your #TragedyOfTheNonCommons piece. Devastating.
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in reply to Shaun Chamberlin • • •Thank you for that recommendation - will watch it!
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •@joemattinson and @louisew I think you'd be interested too.
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Hi Pauline & Richard. I'm a current Lewes resident 😀
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •Your mention of coppicing reminded me of Sprout Lands by William Bryant Logan. Focused mostly on Europe, but also addresses coppicing / pollarding in Japan, along with fire coppicing in North America
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Sprout Lands: Tending the Endless Gift of Trees by William Bryant Logan - William Bryant Logan
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in reply to Pauline von Hellermann • • •another one I just remembered is Craeft by Alexander Langlands. Coppicing, hedging aren't the only subjects, but make a good appearance.
And here's a fun video on hedging, the traditional way:
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Hedging (1942)
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Yes I like participatory agroecologic approach, excellent posts!
This a favorite of mine, Wetlands need People!?
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Lots traditional ecological knowledge aka #ancestraltech n re water, towards oasification. mamanteo, amuna; waru waru, chinampas, johads...
Wetlands need people: a framework for understanding and promoting Australian indigenous wetland management
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